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By: Trejkaz

Trejkaz — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:16:47 +0000

I don’t know if you can call something a nutshell if it’s that big. What kind of nut comes in a shell that big?

Maybe a coconut?

By: isaac Gouy

isaac Gouy — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:47:20 +0000

“your programming language just might be complicated when you have trouble telling the difference between its Nutshell book and a telephone book.”

That just shows that you misunderstand what the “In a Nutshell” books are intended to provide.

Your programming language just might be complicated when you have trouble telling the difference between its Pocket Reference and a telephone book.

http://www.oreilly.com/store/series/pocketrefs.csp

By: Knowing.NET

Knowing.NET — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:47:00 +0000

When Your Nutshell Gets to 1300 Pages……

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By: Simon Gardner

Simon Gardner — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:38:25 +0000

I don’t see how a large library of code makes these languages difficult. You’re not going to use everything, just take what you need. Its like saying a spoken language is more difficult because it has a lot of words. It makes the language more functional and expressive.

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The Cave » Yet More Java Badness — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:07:55 +0000

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By: Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr.

Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr. — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:00:40 +0000

James Chochlinski….thanks for putting them together like that. But I have to agree with Henry, the C# in a nutshell book isn’t a slouch either, and it’s STILL growing…how many people are TRULY going to use the “??” operator in 2.0. Oh please.

Funny how you saw including references to many of the common namespaces is a bad thing. Sure, it goes beyond the name “nutshell” at that size, but if there isn’t as much to put in the C# nutshell book, then obviously we’re talking that the sheer bulk of infrastructure, then we’d have to compound the C# in a nutshell book, with the ASP.NET in a Nutshell, ADO.NET in a nutshell, and possibly others. How bulky does that get to be ? After all, the fact that C# in a nutshell is “only” 928 pages, nah…it’s not bulky enough.

C’mon, there’s lots more significant things to rant about….

By: James Chochlinski

James Chochlinski — Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:50:27 +0000

Take a look at the huge list of APIs in Java EE 5:
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=35838

The specific API’s mandated for Java EE 5 are:

Enterprise JavaBeans (EJB) 3.0
Servlet 2.4
JavaServer Pages (JSP) 2.1
Java Message Service (JMS) 1.1
Java Transaction API (JTA) 1.0
JavaMail 1.3
JavaBeans Activation Framework 1.1
J2EE Connector Architecture 1.5
Web Services for J2EE 1.1
Java API for XML-based RPC (JAX-RPC) 1.1
Java API for XML Web Services (JAX-WS) 2.0
Java Architecture for XML Binding (JAXB) 2.0
SOAP with Attachments API for Java (SAAJ) 1.3
Java API for XML Registries (JAXR) 1.0
Java 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition Management API 1.0
Java 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition Deployment API 1.1
Java Authorization Service Provider Contract for Containers 1.0
Debugging Support for Other Languages (JSR-45)
Standard Tag Library for JavaServer Pages (JSTL) 1.1
Web Services Metadata for the Java Platform 1.0
JavaServer Faces 1.2 Requirements
Common Annotations for the Java Platform 1.0
Streaming API for XML (StAX) 1.0
Java Persistence API 1.0

The spec does not mention JSR 223 scripting integration, Service Data Objects, or the Work Manager API.

By: David Flanagan

David Flanagan — Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:09:18 +0000

I know, I know! And that doesn’t even include the AWT or Swing APIs!

I’m collecting suggestions for shrinking this book at my blog http://www.davidflanagan.com

By: aaa

aaa — Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:32:08 +0000

This blog post does not make sense. in reality, C#, or C++ is more complicated then java “programming language”. You read the wrong book if you want to see the “Java programming Language”. you should read this:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/

The book you said is about “Java Platform”, not the language only.

By: Henry Story

Henry Story — Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:16:31 +0000

Well most of the book contains descriptions of the libraries. You could make a criticism about c being even more complicated by writing a “c in a nutshell” book that contained an overview of the c language and an overview of all the unix libraries including X. Hey you could then even add a section on the Windows libraries. My guess is that at that point your book would not fit into your car.